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Post #939

Prodigenous Zee — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:49:33 +0800

QUOTE(tenwei @ Dec 3 2008, 02:06 PM)

hi...
i am noob for pc hardware,
i am ready to buy one gaming cpu, and budget around rm2000++

jst give me some suggestion .... thx
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You didn't even bother to do some checking first eh?

Read my earlier post..

Post #938

tenwei — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:06:08 +0800

hi...
i am noob for pc hardware,
i am ready to buy one gaming cpu, and budget around rm2000++

jst give me some suggestion .... thx

Post #937

capix — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:53:29 +0800

any suggestion for matx mobo red color pcb...intel or amd..budget <300

Post #936

snowfire64 — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:35:18 +0800

QUOTE(Prodigenous Zee @ Dec 2 2008, 11:18 AM)

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400/E7300 = 594/420
GigaByte GA-G31M-S2L mainboard = 180
4GB Kingston DDR2-800 Value RAM (2 x 2GB) = 170
Forsa 9800GT 512MB GDDR3/ATi HD4850 = 410/550
Pioneer 20x SATA DVDRW = 95
Seagate 320GB SATA HDD = 170
Silverstone ST50F 500W PSU = 250
CoolerMaster Elite 330 casing = 130

Credit goes to lex

Total: RM1999/RM1965
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Hey thanks for the quick respond!

Hmm. I like it.

Thank you Prodigenous Zee and Lex.

Post #935

Prodigenous Zee — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:18:56 +0800

QUOTE(snowfire64 @ Dec 2 2008, 06:44 AM)

Hello there, I need some guidance in getting a pc spec below RM2k. I'm using Gigabyte nVidia 8600 GTS, 2gb RAM and a pentium D 3.0ghz now. Unfortunately, its more a workstation for my family.

So, can anybody suggest a rig below RM2k with a better performance gpu compared to the 8600 GTS? Strictly for gaming, excluding monitor and speaker.

Thanks!
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Post #934

snowfire64 — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:44:06 +0800

Post #933

capix — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:59:04 +0800

Intel Core2duo 2.66Ghz E7400
4GB 800Mhz RAM
320 GB HDD 16mb Cache
MSI P45 Neo3 Chipset MainBoard
Nvidia 9800GT PCIe Graphic Card 512mb DDR3
samsung DVDRW
Cooler Master Casing
Cooler Master Power Supply
19' Samsung LCD Model SyncMaster 933bw (15000:1)

1.8k..ok not

Post #932

sk3pt|c — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:57:42 +0800

Sifus sekalian...Sorta need help...im gettin a gaming rig...list of items im getting:
>Q8200
>Ati4870
>500Gb HHD
>1 DVD-RW
>02 x 2Gb 800 ram

My problems...i dunno which MOBO to get..!Any gigabyte p45 ?And...Im confused which is good PSU n coolin tools!!??Appreciate if you guy coulda state the price as well!!!Thanks!!

Post #931

gulhalim — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:08:37 +0800

Hello,
I have been reading some review but i want to ask your opinion.
Gainward 4850 GS Vs Palit 4870 Sonic is the 4870 worth the extra money we need to pay?

Plus is it better for me to get c2d rig or wait until feb/march to get Core i7 (by that time i will have enough of budget.

P.S i didn't get much help at my topic so will ask around

Post #930

lex — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:48:33 +0800

QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 24 2008, 01:38 AM)

now my PC Buying Guide can finally have a super-expensive setup!!!!!!

A single QX9770 processor alone is more expensive than the whole Core i7 setup I've listed..

Post #929

goldfries — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:38:46 +0800

i7 is released and perhaps we'll see the i7 920 drop the price of the other processors of the similar range.

on the other hand, setting up i7 machines are costly thus vendors MAY not reduce their pricing.

and yes, 3D rendering - just get the i7.

now my PC Buying Guide can finally have a super-expensive setup!!!!!!

Post #928

lex — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:04:45 +0800

QUOTE(pizza0502 @ Nov 23 2008, 03:07 AM)

izzit when i7 release...in the main time others processor also will reduce price?

Not so much at the moment.. Prices more or less remain the same. The Core i7 and other processors are in different price segments..

QUOTE(pizza0502 @ Nov 23 2008, 03:07 AM)

did anyone buy something in ebay from oversea?
izzit reliable?

Dunno... never tried. Up to you, its your own risk..

Post #927

pizza0502 — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:07:10 +0800

QUOTE(lex @ Nov 22 2008, 03:13 PM)

That's because most of the 3D renderers still use software based rendering (using processor), thus the faster the processor the better (reduces rendering time). If you are using programs such as 3D Studio Max, POV Ray and/or TrueSpace, then it will use the processor to render.

Only a few, for example Maya, Cinema4D and Softimage have the option to use hardware accelerated OpenGL (using graphics card), however if your hardware does not support some of the features it requires (for rendering) then it will still fallback to software based rendering (back to using processor). Recommended graphics card for these are usually those ultra expensive NVIDIA Quadros for workstations which costs anywhere from RM1500 up to RM22,000. Most of the time these software will always use software based rendering by default (due to more flexibility and highly programmable) to avoid any bugs or quirks of graphics hardware and drivers.

Examples...

http://www.lostcircuits.com/mambo//index.p...=1&limitstart=9
http://www.lostcircuits.com/mambo//index.p...1&limitstart=10
http://techreport.com/articles.x/15818/11
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel...spx?i=3448&p=17
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/824/11/
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/824/10/
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/824/8/
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/824/9/
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Intel-Core...rrived/?page=10
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/11/0...5-965-review/10
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=634&type=expert&pid=7

As you'll notice the Core i7 processors comes out on top as the fastest processors for 3D rendering.
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WOW!!!thx alot LEX!!!
i ady read all those links...i7 so powerful...
izzit when i7 release...in the main time others processor also will reduce price?

another question...

did anyone buy something in ebay from oversea?
izzit reliable?

Post #926

lex — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:13:48 +0800

QUOTE(pizza0502 @ Nov 22 2008, 02:15 PM)

Wow...u recommend me using new processor!!!
9800GT is enuf for me doing 3D?
cuz as i know render a 3D is takes time....

Post #925

pizza0502 — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:15:12 +0800

QUOTE(lex @ Nov 22 2008, 05:57 AM)

Try...

Intel Core i7 920 = 1099
GigaByte EX58-UD5 mainboard = 1139
3GB Kingston DDR3-133 CL9 (3 x 1GB) = 459
Forsa 9800GT 512MB GDDR3 = 410
Pioneer 20x SATA DVDRW = 95
Seagate 320GB SATA HDD = 170
Silverstone Strider ST56F 560W PSU = 350
CoolerMaster Elite 330 casing = 130

Total: RM3852
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Wow...u recommend me using new processor!!!
9800GT is enuf for me doing 3D?
cuz as i know render a 3D is takes time....

Post #924

lex — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:57:31 +0800

QUOTE(pizza0502 @ Nov 21 2008, 10:32 AM)

Erm...mayb 3~4K only...

Post #923

pizza0502 — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:32:28 +0800

QUOTE(lex @ Nov 21 2008, 01:00 AM)

You have to state your budget first... Otherwise we'd be talking about RM20K specifications (which usually high end 3D designers use).
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Oh sorry,

Erm...mayb 3~4K only...

Post #922

electron — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:24:38 +0800

QUOTE(lex @ Nov 21 2008, 01:00 AM)

You can try GigaByte EP43-DS3L... around RM335.

AFAIK, those PSUs are manufactured Andyson. True wattage and single rail +12V (high Amperes). As for experience, for me none.. since its rather rare to come across this PSU here (or even in my work).

See http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MT...GhlbnRodXNpYXN0

You have to state your budget first... Otherwise we'd be talking about RM20K specifications (which usually high end 3D designers use).
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hi, thanks for the recommendation
i'll look up the Gigabyte P43 board

as for the Vantec PSU, they advertise as true power and pricing is very good
just not sure about the efficiency but i'm not expecting much at that price range

Post #921

Andiboi — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:12:02 +0800

QUOTE(lex @ Nov 19 2008, 11:51 PM)

AMD X2 5600+ 2.8GHz (1MB L2 cache, 65nm, 65W TDP) = 295
ASUS M2A-MX mainboard = 170
2GB Kingston DDR2-800 Value RAM (2 x 1GB) = 100
Palit SUPER HD4650 512MB GDDR3 = 250
Lite-On 20X SATA DVDRW = 80
Seagate 320GB SATA HDD = 170
CoolerMaster Extreme Power Plus 460W (real power 420W) = 165
AOpen G326 "Transformer" SFF mATX casing = 190

Total: RM1420

Can still "mix and match".. your decision anyway.
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Sh*t, this is a hell of good suggestion
you made me wanna build a AMD sff rig already.

[addedon]November 21, 2008, 2:21 am[/addedon]Modified: Take back my words, didn't know that E5200 is better than 6000+ >.<. Why still people stated that, AMD is cheaper than intel? Felt that intel is more cheaper and bang for buck. Hmmm..

Post #920

lex — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:00:25 +0800

QUOTE(electron @ Nov 20 2008, 11:38 PM)

i have a Q9550 with me on hand
so now i'm looking for a board to pair with it
should i got with DFI P35 Blood Iron or Asus P5QL-Pro (P43) or it's equivalent?
both boards are in the same price range, i.e. 330-350
or is there a better suggestion

You can try GigaByte EP43-DS3L... around RM335.

QUOTE(electron @ Nov 20 2008, 11:38 PM)

in addition, any comment and experience with the Vantec iON2+ (Nexstar) PSU? priced very competitively with CM Extreme Power Plus series

AFAIK, those PSUs are manufactured Andyson. True wattage and single rail +12V (high Amperes). As for experience, for me none.. since its rather rare to come across this PSU here (or even in my work).

See http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MT...GhlbnRodXNpYXN0

QUOTE

Andyson is a company that end users may or may not be familiar with as they have provided the basis for a number of Hiper power supplies, Sunbeamtech power supplies, some BFG power supplies (ES-800) and probably at this point most famously Ultra. Ultra and BFG have used Andyson to produce some spectacular products including to date the single highest DC output power supply for a standard PC available in North America the Ultra X3 1600w.

QUOTE(pizza0502 @ Nov 21 2008, 12:48 AM)

I'm 3D designer, mostly i done my work at office.
now i'm thinking of buy a pc for myself to done some 3D works at home.

Any recommend for the spec?

You have to state your budget first... Otherwise we'd be talking about RM20K specifications (which usually high end 3D designers use).