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            <title>Anyone On Kil&amp;#39;Jaeden Server, Post IGN and Guild Names pls =)</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1238455</link>
            <description>Hey guys, just wanna know a general number of population on the Kil&amp;#39;Jaeden server.&lt;br /&gt;Thinking of playing on the server but want to know if anyone here is playing there.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
            <author>sayming</author>
            <category>Guilds</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:26:44 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>&amp;lt;Lanun&amp;gt; of Thaurissan [H] is recruiting, Casual 10pm (M&amp;#39;sia)</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1238011</link>
            <description>24 Nov 2009&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Newly formed, casual and nub guild &amp;lt;Lanun&amp;gt; is looking for a few more ppl to fill in its 25-man raiding slots. We do have more than 25 ppl atm, but raid attendance from the first raiding week was still not 100% full guild. We would like to keep it small though and don&amp;#39;t intend to have a second 25-man team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Guild type: Casual &amp;amp; &amp;#39;Relax la bang&amp;#39;&lt;br /&gt;Raid: Wed-Mon, 10pm-12.30 M&amp;#39;sia S&amp;#39;pore (unscheduled/scheduled raid may start earlier if enough ppl login early)&lt;br /&gt;Members: Majority Malaysian with a few Singaporean, and Aussie&lt;br /&gt;Vent langguage: Malay &amp;amp; English (at least until we teach the 2 aussie and a french to speak malay) &lt;!--emo&amp;:)--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not looking for: Ret or Prot Pally&lt;br /&gt;High demand: Priest &amp;amp; Range DPS &lt;br /&gt;Current line-up (inc alt): &lt;a href='http://www.wow-heroes.com/index.php?zone=us&amp;server=Thaurissan&amp;guild=Lanun' target='_blank'&gt;http://www.wow-heroes.com/index.php?zone=u...san&amp;guild=Lanun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Progression (1st raiding week):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ToC 10 - full clear (2 grps)&lt;br /&gt;ToGC 10 - N.Beast (that also because Gormok bugged and forever casting ice breath towards one direction) ;]&lt;br /&gt;ToC 25 - Anub not downed (cause we&amp;#39;re nub as advertised)&lt;br /&gt;Ony 25 - (took us 2 nights cause first night 1/2 of raid dc during whelp, and nope, no one has gearscore on)&lt;br /&gt;Ony 10 (2 grps)&lt;br /&gt;Ulduar 25 - FL, Raz, Ignis, XT, Kolo, &amp;amp; Aur.&lt;br /&gt;Ulduar 10 - FL, Raz, Ignis, XT(HM), Kolo, Aur, Thorim(HM), Hodir, &amp;amp; Freya&lt;br /&gt;Maly 25 (20 ppl cause not enough online and we accidentally got the achievement)&lt;br /&gt;Naxx 25 (14 ppl cause not enough online and we want to feel like pro) - Spider Wing down&lt;br /&gt;VoA 25 &lt;br /&gt;VoA 10&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apply here or catch &amp;#39;Durhaka&amp;#39; in game.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rgds.</description>
            <author>ArmRule</author>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:48:27 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>mage pve spec, </title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1237901</link>
            <description>i been reading on how to spec my mage best for pve dps and i get a lot of different spec.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;some say full fire, some say arcane/fire, and some is fire/arcane. frostfire are also recommended but a lot said that it&amp;#39;s rather weak for pve.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;any mage players? suggestions?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;should i go heavy on arcane or fire instead?</description>
            <author>paranoid</author>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:26:06 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>wow topup&amp;#33; 2month, </title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1237769</link>
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            <author>mizi3</author>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:21:24 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Can&amp;#39;t log in 0.o?, </title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1237720</link>
            <description>Anyone else having problem of something like &amp;quot;Unable to connect&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My internet is working fine... just can&amp;#39;t log in to WoW  &lt;!--emo&amp;:(--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;</description>
            <author>alexision</author>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:46:49 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>help on wow cd, </title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1236367</link>
            <description>hi i need help here i would like to ask where to buy wow installer in kl area can anyone help me out  &lt;!--emo&amp;:D--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;  &lt;!--emo&amp;:D--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;  &lt;!--emo&amp;:D--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;</description>
            <author>azrl</author>
            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:35:07 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Frostmourne Server, </title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1236245</link>
            <description>I&amp;#39;m from ally side, trying to do the Pilgrim&amp;#39;s Peril quest...&lt;br /&gt;But I&amp;#39;m having problem for orgrimmar...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The tables has no chair... &lt;!--emo&amp;:x--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/doh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='doh.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is this a bug that everyone at Frostmourne cant eat at orgrimmar or just me?</description>
            <author>alexision</author>
            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:39:24 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Need Help, return of an ex-dotard, patch help</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1233640</link>
            <description>Hi all,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have been years since i left the world of warcraft, it&amp;#39;s holiday now, so i&amp;#39;m coming back, the problem is, my current patch is &lt;b&gt;1.21&lt;/b&gt;, anyway i can update it to &lt;b&gt;3.32&lt;/b&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;thanks all&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
            <author>monsterface007</author>
            <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:38:33 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Need Help, Trial Account Upgrade Failure</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1231458</link>
            <description>Hello everyone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;m new to the WoW. After playing with the trial account and liking it, I decided to upgrade to standard account. I purchase it digitally (at Blizzard&amp;#39;s site, using a debit card) &lt;!--emo&amp;:clap:--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/rclxms.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='rclxms.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At first it was okay, I can login and play. But today I couldn&amp;#39;t login. Blizzard sent me an email saying my Trial Account upgrade had failed. Now they are totally locking me out of my account &lt;!--emo&amp;:cry:--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cry.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;ve called my card centre and they say that the payment is still being processed. In Blizzards email they stated that I can only call them (US? How much will it cost?) to rectify this issue. They can&amp;#39;t help me through emails &lt;!--emo&amp;:stars:--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/rclxub.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='rclxub.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What should I do? I really like to game and want to continue playing. Have any of you guys had this problem before?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hope sifoos out there can help me &lt;!--emo&amp;:respect:--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/notworthy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='notworthy.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;</description>
            <author>reiki_longtime</author>
            <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:48:44 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Fury Warrior Maxing Out DPS, </title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1229992</link>
            <description>recently i just hit level 80 and I am spec-ing for Fury for off spec&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;what is the best DPS cycle ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;also its also said that Fury warrior is very gear dependable so should i follow those from maxdps.com?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
            <author>KennethNYC</author>
            <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:00:10 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Logitech G13, Suggestions?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1229894</link>
            <description>Looking for opinions. Is it worth getting the G13 for WoW? I&amp;#39;m afraid that once I get it, I&amp;#39;ll just end up going back to a regular keyboard. The G15 regular gaming keyboard is only slightly more expensive so I&amp;#39;m wondering if I should just get that and forget bout this. Anyone here currently using this?</description>
            <author>ravager877</author>
            <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:17:47 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>[WTS] 80 Undead Rogue - thaurissan, in b4.......</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1229594</link>
            <description>selling 80 undead rogue with ulduar weapon and 71 troll priest with tbc epics and 62 NE hunter :: free 1 month tunnel service::&lt;br /&gt; msn- wk-88@hotmail.com &lt;br /&gt;sms: 012-4201823 &lt;br /&gt;price: RM450-RM100= &lt;b&gt;RM350&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pics:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href='http://img32.imageshack.us/i/stuncraftlol.jpg/' target='_blank'&gt;&lt;img src='http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/175/stuncraftlol.th.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
            <author>bucnation</author>
            <pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:18:21 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Withdrawal Syndrome Thread ver. ∞, Ken i haz spam nao?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1227259</link>
            <description>Ive been trying (well kind of) to quit WoW like forever, but in the end i will always come back rolling my face on the keyboard and pew pew away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My account have been frozen intact for the fourth consecutive time now for like 7 month naow (grats&amp;#33;), but recently i am finding myself missing the werld... of warcraft. I am back to trolling the WoW forum, MMO-C, EJ and those sort. Ive even slowly in the dark accumulating mods after mods and ui... now i see that withdrawing again for the fourth time (lol?) is imminent. I am so going to see my face rolling the keyboard again Soon™.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This happen a few days ago, i merge my account with b.net and somehow out of my own stupidity(maybe unconsciously idiotic piece of crazy mindfcuked stupid brain damage of mine) bought the 60 days pre-paid card. oh how obvious&amp;#33;. Ive stopped WoW four times before, once three month before TBC launch, come back during the TBC launch for the lulz then quit again a month later because TBC is teh suxxor. re-roll during S1/S2 arena with a friend on a different server on a different account, quit again at the end of S2 due to study. I roll back to my old &lt;s&gt;server&lt;/s&gt; realm two month before WotLK hit shelves and quit again in february also due to study and some less intelligent housemate of mind wrecking havoc all around the infinity ward (lol IW sucks) and make us move to a new house w/o interwebz connection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Naow on my hand i got a merged account, still frozen. a sucky internet connection (lol celcom broadband) which pretty much going to change come december (yay&amp;#33; shitmyx) and a 60-days prepaid card.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;what should i do?&lt;br /&gt;1. Be an hero, topap naow and suffer&lt;br /&gt;2. Be a lesser hero, wait for december, topap and still suffer&lt;br /&gt;3. Sell the prepaid away (but it was gleaming with the &amp;quot;my preciousssssssssss&amp;quot; quote)&lt;br /&gt;4. /wrist&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TL:DR.&lt;br /&gt;It aint a even close to a wall of text, read it or shiz it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;hint: all grammar and speeling mistaek is intentional coz it is teh AWSM</description>
            <author>Yue</author>
            <pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:28:51 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>WOW stereogram, Looking at WOW in depth</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1226494</link>
            <description>here&amp;#39;s some screenshots of WOW in 3D cross-eye stereogram. for those who don&amp;#39;t know what is cross-eye stereogram, read this article :-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereogram' target='_blank'&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereogram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lordaeron Entrance&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src='http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs021.snc3/10858_105038676175897_100000092958102_143248_3204676_n.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Road To Silverpine Forest&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src='http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs021.snc3/10858_105038679509230_100000092958102_143249_4869440_n.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shadowfang Keep Courtyard&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src='http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs001.snc3/10858_105038682842563_100000092958102_143250_1827879_n.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shadowfang Keep Entrance&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src='http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs001.snc3/10858_105038686175896_100000092958102_143251_5645737_n.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
            <author>Fadly</author>
            <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:34:44 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Need ideas for running a Wow guild, </title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1226135</link>
            <description>Ok i just quit from my guild vereor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So now i am recruiting a bunch of people to get 10mans and 25s going in a guild i just created on my own. Sadly this is the classes/players i have so far in my new guild.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Pally tank (myself)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Warrior tank (he is almost geared but probably not able to tank Toc10)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Mage (geared and good player)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Warlock (Alt character. This is the warrior&amp;#39;s alt. Pretty geared.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Death Knight (Alt character not geared. This is my mage friend from a different guild)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Rogue (suspected he bought his account from Ebay. Seems non-commital.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Priest healer(Not that well geared also not much experience)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Paladin healer (He is geared. Tends to balk if asked to do content he isn&amp;#39;t interested in from my past experiences with him.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So right now i am the GM with no officers. Our current setup is guild raids on Friday and Saturdays only since i only can come on these days if i was to raid with my American guildys. Looking at starting raids @ 7pm Server time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Loot rules hasn&amp;#39;t been made official, but i was thinking about need/greed mixed with loot council. Priority will be going to gearing out the tanks first. Also tank trinkets automatically go to me since that is all i am missing. Everything else is free rolls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because we don&amp;#39;t have many members, i have send out communication to other guilds for joint raids. So far no replies yet &lt;!--emo&amp;:x--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/doh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='doh.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The next step i will be doing is drafting some guild rules so people know what to expect and not later down the road only discover rules not mentioned which will cause problems later on. E.g. guild invites is based on merit on how good you perform and your gear, and invites are based on the GMs opinion and no debate is allowed :/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any comments and suggestions what i can do to improve the guild?</description>
            <author>Moogle Stiltzkin</author>
            <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:13:35 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Want to transfer to new server, Bye bye Jubei</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1225087</link>
            <description>Hi, since starting playing WoW I&amp;#39;ve been playing in Jubei&amp;#39;thos server since day one. However, recently a few of my friends will be starting WoW and from my observation Jubei isn&amp;#39;t a newbie friendly place anymore (4600gs for Ony25, and they&amp;#39;ll kick a tank with 30k hp unbuffed for heroics, and most people will just rage quit after a wipe in any Heroic or Raid. I feel like Jubei players ain&amp;#39;t patient anymore after WOTLK was released). So thought wanna recommend them another Oceanic server and transfer my priest as well to help them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So want to ask which Oceanic server (ally or Horde currently has the best server &amp;#39;culture&amp;#39;) is erm...newbie friendly now? Thanks.</description>
            <author>Kaerna</author>
            <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:31:26 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>i need help&amp;#33;, </title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1224629</link>
            <description>i want to  transfer my main character to other server, however i don&amp;#39;t use any credit card. therefore, i will pay for transfer fee and extra 50rm if anyone could help.&lt;br /&gt;my phone No. 016 2008981</description>
            <author>macstatu</author>
            <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:40:03 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Class Dilemma, Again, Mage or Paladin</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1223525</link>
            <description>Hey guys, I&amp;#39;m planning to start Wow all over again.&lt;br /&gt;As usual I&amp;#39;m having class dilemma again.&lt;br /&gt;I wanna roll a BE so I&amp;#39;m considering either a Paladin or a Mage.&lt;br /&gt;I have never played a Tank before (my previous toon was a lv70 pre WotlK Hunter) and I thought of trying one. Can Paladins be main tanks? Another thing is I think pallies armor sets are a lil ugly. They all look like power rangers.&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;m considering a Mage because I think they&amp;#39;re armor sets look pretty cool but I heard they&amp;#39;re difficult to solo group quests and I&amp;#39;m gonna be playing another DPS class.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Advice please?  &lt;!--emo&amp;:)--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;  &lt;!--emo&amp;:respect:--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/notworthy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='notworthy.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;</description>
            <author>sayming</author>
            <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:21:45 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>New patch?, Failed to update it stated</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1222370</link>
            <description>Anyone failed to get the patch? The download doesn&amp;#39;t move then it stated patch required, when i pressed restart it stated failed to apply patch. =&amp;#092;</description>
            <author>kEazYc</author>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:43:51 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Thaurissan [H] :  &amp;lt;Overtime&amp;gt; is now recruiting, Recruitment for progression</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1221182</link>
            <description>&amp;lt;Overtime&amp;gt; is a reformation of a previously casual guild known as &amp;lt;IGNITION&amp;gt; Due to changes in directions, the guild has now reform for raid progressions for the upcoming 3.3 patch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our raiding days are :&lt;br /&gt;Monday, Wednesday and Friday &lt;br /&gt;9PM +8GMT MY/SG TIME&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are currently in desperate need for a few dedicated players of certain class and talent specs listed below&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - Holy Paladin x 1&lt;br /&gt; - Balance Druid x 1&lt;br /&gt; - Resto Shaman x 2&lt;br /&gt; - Resto Druid x 1&lt;br /&gt; - MM Hunter x 1&lt;br /&gt; - Feral Druid (Bear ) x 1&lt;br /&gt; - Mage x 1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please visit our temporary website - &lt;a href='http://guildovertime.guildlaunch.com' target='_blank'&gt;http://Guildovertime.Guildlaunch.com &lt;/a&gt; for those who wish to apply.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As of the current guild&amp;#39;s situation. We have been facing issues in attempting TOGC25 due to either lack of classes above or we have players who are unable to perform/raid due to numerous reasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For in game contacts : Please contact Salience or Klephts.</description>
            <author>atolycus</author>
            <category>Guilds</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:23:07 +0800</pubDate>
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